Comparing Diesel Engines
This page compares available
diesel engines to provide the most suitable application for your conversion.
For 1-10 noise statistics, 10 is the loudest.
| Engine |
Size |
Direct Inject? |
HP |
Torque |
Bolt Pattern |
Red Line / Governed
RPMS |
Noise & Vibration
1-10 |
| Cummins 6AT |
3.4L |
No |
~132 |
~230 |
Chevy w/ Adapter plate |
3500 |
4 |
Cummins 4BT w/ Bosch
VE
Fuel Pump |
3.9L |
Yes |
107 |
~300 |
SAE #3 / Chevy
(both) |
2500 |
8 |
Cummins 4BT w/ Bosch
P1700
Fuel Pump |
3.9L |
Yes |
130 |
~350 |
SAE #3 / Chevy (both) |
2500 |
9 |
| Cummins 6BT 12 Valve,
Rotary Pump |
5.9L |
Yes |
160 |
400 |
SAE #3 / Chevy (both) |
2500 |
8 |
| Cummins 6BT 24 Valve,
Inline Pump |
5.9L |
Yes |
305@2300 |
555@1400(!) |
SAE #3 / Chevy (both) |
2500 |
9 |
| Isuzu 4BD1T from
NPR Box Truck w/ Standard Trans |
3.9L |
|
121@3000 |
Approx 250-200 |
SAE #3 |
2500-3000 |
3-4? |
Output Specs and Web Site
Contect stolen Directly from website of
Mark's
Adapters of Australia (New Window).
|
GM
DIESEL ENGINES
|
|
ENGINE
MODEL
|
CYL
|
DISP
CC.
|
TYPE
|
POWER
Kw@RPM
|
TORQUE
Nm@RPM
|
|
OLDS 5.7
|
V8
|
5700
|
DIESEL
|
94@3000
|
305@1600
|
|
CHEVY 6.2
|
V8
|
6217
|
DIESEL
|
116@3500
|
386@2000
|
|
CHEVY 6.5
|
V8
|
6500
|
DIESEL
|
120@3400
|
394@1700
|
|
CHEVY 6.5
|
V8
|
6500
|
DIESEL TURBO
|
140@3400
|
515@1700
|
Look for more information
about comparing these engines shorly with
more accurate output statistics.
This
has been stolen from Drexx Laggui as posted to the LCML
Duramax,
V8 (6600cc / 6.6L / 402.73 ci)
Max. output: 300 hp @ 3100rpm
Max. torque: 520 lb. ft. @ 1800 rpm
Weight: 833.8 lbs
Hino
J08C-TR, I6 (8.0L / 486.0 ci)
Max. output: 252 hp @ 2,500 rpm
Max. torque: 550 lb. ft. at 1,500 rpm
Chevy,
V8 (6500cc / 6.5L / 396.63 ci)
Max. output: 187.6 hp @ 3400 rpm
Max. torque: 515 Nm (290 lb.ft.?) @ 1700 rpm
Ford
Powerstroke (Navistar T444)
Max. output: 250 hp @ 2600 rpm
Max. torque: 460 lb. ft. @ 1600 rpm
Weight: 928.4 lb
Cummins
ISB, I6 (5.88L / 359 ci)
Max. output: 235 hp @ 2700 rpm
Max. torque: 505 lb. ft. @ 1600 rpm
Weight: 961.4 lb
Toyota
1HZ with Safari Turbo+Intercooler (4.2L)
Max. output: 263 hp @ 4000rpm
Max. torque: 435Nm @ 2000rpm
Weight: 650+ lbs.
Drexx
Laggui - TLCA #11841; PMC
San
Jose, CA, USA
The
following is stolen directly from the Toyota
Land Cruiser FAQ by Rob Mullen. As the new FAQ becomes available
this text will be removed and properly linked. Any items inserted
by andre@collegeinternetsolutions.com
are colored red.
17.2 Diesel Engine Swaps
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I'm starting here because
to me this is the swap that makes the most sense for a rock-crawling machine
and is probably the least explored. As you'll figure out shortly, I'm pretty
opinionated on this one and I welcome anyone to dispute my views. I believe
that diesel engines are superior to gas ones for offroad use for many reasons.
They tend to make usable torque at much lower engine speed than gas engines.
This means you don't need nearly as low a crawl gear. They also feature
a much flatter torque curve. There is no ignition system to fail because
of moisture. They are not as affected by altitude, in fact, turbocharged
diesels are virtually immune to altitude. In most cases, even though they
have all the advantages of a fuel injected engine, such as the ability
to run at extreme angles, they rely on mechanical injection which is considerably
simpler than electonic injection. Diesel engines also tend to get much
better fuel economy and greater cruising range than gas engines of similar
displacement.
There are three commonly
available engines that are suitable for swapping into Land Cruisers.
The most easily obtained
is the GM 6.2l diesel. It was offered in Chev/GMC
Pickups, Suburbans, and full-size Tahoes. A conversion kit is available
from Mark's Adapters in Australia to mate a GM diesel to a Land Cruiser
4 speed manual or automatic transmission. The GM V8 weighs about as much
as a big block, so pretty close to the weight of a 2F.
The GM 5.7l is without a
doubt the worst diesel engine ever cobbled together. It is the Olds 350
block that was converted to diesel. Probably 99% of these motors have been
blown apart for at least 10 years, but some may still be kicking around.
If someone offers you one, they are NOT your friend.
A slightly more rare engine
that I see as being a better match to a Land Cruiser is a Cummins
4BT3.9 litre turbo diesel. It was used in among other things, Ford
E350 cube vans, Chev/GMC P30/P3500 step vans, and Case 580 Tractors.
PowerMark used to offer a
conversion kit (p/n RK9525G) that will allow you to bolt in a B3.5/5.9
in place of a GM 292 I6 or 350 V8. In order to put this engine into a LC
using the stock transmission, you simply need to get the motor mounts/bellhousing
Advance Adapters sells for putting a V8 in and use the Cummins engine instead.
Unfortunately, it appears they've recently gone out of business.
Stay tuned... Thankfully not, AA is still very much
so in business.
I think the Cummins B5.9,
as used in Dodge Ram is definitely too heavy to put into a 40 series, and
is a little heavy for a 55/60/80 series. The above mentioned kit would
also work for a B5.9.
The best diesel swap into
an FJ40 I've ever seen is the Isuzu 3.9L diesel.
Two of its applications were in Isuzu NPR series cab-forward trucks, and
BELT LS2700CII (4BDIT).
17.2.1 Isuzu Engine Specs
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DISP (INDUST) TORQUE
COMP
MODEL (CC) CYL FUEL BHP*
FT-LB RATIO
4BD1 3856 4 DD 88@2800 181@1600
17.1
4BD1T 3856 4 TDD 105@2500
240@1600 17.5:1
*Figures according to
SAE J1349 Gross BHP test. "Automotive" BHP of the 4BD1T for instance is
actually 121@3000
17.2.2 Cummins Engine Specs
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DISP TORQUE DRY WT LENGTH
HEIGHT
MODEL (CC) CYL FUEL BHP
FT-LB (LBS) (IN) (IN)
4BT3.9 39xx 4 TID 105@2500
260@1500 705 30.1 35.6
4BTA3.9-120 39xx 4 TIDA
120@2500 302@1500 725 30.1 35.6
17.2.3 Diesel GM Specs
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YEARS DISP STOCK TORQUE
COMP
MODEL AVAIL (CC) CYL FUEL
HP FT-LB RATIO
5.7L 57xx V8 ID ..... ......
......
6.2L -94 62xx V8 ID 150
250@2500 ......
6.5L 94- 65xx V8 ID 170
290@2000 ......
6.5LT 94- 65xx V8 TID 190
385@1700 ......
17.2.4 Nissan Diesel Specs
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DISP TORQUE COMP
MODEL (CC) CYL FUEL BHP
FT-LB RATIO
SD33T 3245 6 T?D 101@3100
175@2200 21:1
MODEL BORE STROKE DRY WT
LENGTH WIDTH HEIGHT
(IN) (IN) (LBS) (IN) (IN)
(IN)
SD33T 3.27 3.94
FUEL
ID - Indirect Injection
Diesel
DD - Direct Injection Diesel
T - Turbo
A - Aftercooled (erroniously
called Intercooled by most) |