All About Turbos and
Diesel Applications (Page 2)
From Dana at fj40dana@hotmail.com:
Here is an interesting thread
from the DTLC all about Turbos that I hope can provide some reasonably
in depth information:
Listers, I contacted Berrima
Diesel in Aus, and they sent me some very
interesting diesel info,
in the form of several attachments. Here is one,
I'll send the others in
separate posts. Please note the comment about
aneroids.
Dana
from Berrima Diesel:
Tech Sheet
'Turbo Myths and Facts'
Myth- This turbo is
totally oil cooled as water cooling is troublesome.
Fact- There is no such thing
as an oil cooled turbo charger!! All turbo
chargers are oil fed due
to the fact that they all have bearings that need
lubricating. Turbocharger
units are either water-cooled or not! Full Stop!!
Unfortunately most aftermarket
turbo kit manufacturers specify a non-water
cooled or use the water-cooled
turbo, but leave the water-cooling
disconnected. All for a
cost sake!! As usual, the excuses used leave the
customer confused! Water
cooling came about to increase the durability and
life expectancy of a turbo
unit. This is visible if we look at factory turbo
charged 4WD's. They nearly
all use water-cooling.
Myth- The engine will run
a much lower engine temperature if it is
Intercooled.
Fact- A diesel engine compresses
the cylinder air charge to approx. 500PSI.
This is done as the air
needs to be red hot so that when the diesel fuel is
injected, it immediately
ignites. As we can see, hot air for a diesel is not
a problem. Intercoolers
are generally sold with the myth of running cooler
denser air and lower temperatures,
whilst dramatically increasing power. The
temperature part would be
true only if the increased power part was left
out. To get the increase
in power sold with an Intercooler we now have to
increase the fuel loading
higher. As I always say, more fuel makes more
power with the offset of
more heat.
Let's now look at the other
problems associated with Intercooling. Over
fuelling and hungry for
power is the biggest one which definitely cooks
engines. The most common
of all though is radiator air flow restriction. The
radiator needs cool air
to cool the hot engine coolant. Generally up front
we have a bullbar, driving
lights, bug screens (all diverting small amounts
of air flow), we then
have the introduced Intercooler dumping hot air over
the air conditioning condenser
(most air conditioners shut off if the
engine coolant starts to
get too hot to try and aid in keeping cool air
going to the radiator) which
is dumping now extremely hot air over the poor
old radiator. The radiator
is now getting the leftovers and is expected to
cool the power enhanced,
hard working engine. This problem gets worse as the
ambient air temperature
increases.
So... an Intercooler added
to a turbo system may not run cooler.
Myth- Particular companies
don't increase the engine output too much ,when
turbocharging, so as to
keep long engine life.
Fact- This comment is alarmist!
It is impossible to gauge the original life
of a diesel engine let alone
one that is now turbo charged. If a turbo
system is set up correctly,
it will have no effect on engine life. Here at
Berrima, we suggest that
engine life could be possibly lengthened, with the
install of a correctly set
up turbo system, due to the fact that it is now
running with increased efficiency
which can help with reducing soot build up
in engine oil and around
piston rings etc! We see vehicles that we turbo
charged many years ago coming
back with 500000km on the engine and no sign
of it wearing out. Diesels
last if correctly maintained!
Myth- You must fit a Fuel
pump aneroid (fuel compensator) when you fit a
turbo as it will run better
and give you more power.
Fact- For starters the addition
of an aneroid to your injection pump will
cost upwards of $800-$1000
on top of a turbo system. It is specifically
designed as a pollution
control device and is fitted only to factory turbo
diesel. Unfortunately in
aftermarket turbo fitment, an aneroid can be used
as a device to mask over
fuelling and over powering the engine.
Myth- Some companies promote
large, low boost, cool running turbo units!!!
Fact- Get real! It's simple
physics. Pressure and volume are relative to
each other. A turbo running
higher boost gets higher volumes of air to an
engine than the one running
lower boost. The higher the boost the more air
volume! A turbo is only
an air supply device. Boost pressures used in turbo
charging are relatively
low and don't generate much heat if any. If we kept
compressing the air to a
couple of hundred PSI though, air would soon heat
up. It still stands that
fuel makes the heat in the equation!! Loads of fuel
means loads of heat. A correctly
matched turbo spins up fast so as to keep a
nice lean mixture down low
and to get a torque increase early in the rev
range(a lean mixture is
cool and clean in a diesel!!). As we know, diesel
engines produce maximum
torque at low engine revs so we need a turbo to be
at maximum boost at those
low engine revs. What's happened now to the 'large
low revving turbo'? Not
much, until the engine revs get up high. Too late
for the boost to arrive
at high revs! In fact if the boost is kept low and
the turbo spins up slowly,
the fuel and air mixture can be quite rich in the
low to mid working range
of the engine. Rich means heat in a diesel. That's
why using a large 'cool'
turbo charger is a fallacy! With the high revving
diesels of today, a turbo
needs to boost early and hold the boost through
the large rev range. The
variation in a 4WD diesel rev range can be 4000RPM
between idle and redline.
Myth- Use the old manifold
and just adapt the turbo to it.
Fact- This is a real worry.
The original exhaust manifold is not designed to
have the weight of a turbo
unit swinging off it or the increased
backpressure that a turbo
creates in the system. Having a specifically
designed new exhaust manifold
for the turbo to bolt to is only common sense.
A specific turbo exhaust
manifold is internally split for cylinders 1,2,3
from 4,5,6. This is specific
for exhaust flow and increased low speed
torque.
Myth- The turbo must be mounted
high up in the engine bay so as not to crack
in water.
Fact- High mounting in certain
engine bays can lead to excessive engine bay
temperature. We have seen
some funny cases! The most common is systems using
a high mount position, for
the turbo, in the Nissan Patrol. We have seen
some melted glove boxes,
cooked batteries and even paint damage to bonnets.
As far as water crossings
cracking turbo housings go, I don't know who would
drive at full speed long
enough to get the turbo orange hot and then plough
into a river deep enough
to fill the engine bay. You can imagine the picture
let alone the splash! The
castings are strong enough to withstand splashing
and possible immersion ,whilst
hot, under most conditions.
Myth-You need a high flow
foam filter when turbo charging.
Fact- If you don't know
our stance on this subject just ask! Ask the turbo
reconditioning industry
how much foam they find behind compressor wheels in
turbo chargers when they
are being rebuilt!
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